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 Post subject: The DVLA (UK Government Department) A Law Unto Themselves...
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:30 pm 
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The DVLA have made millions auctioning private number plates off like;

K1 NGS sold £185,000 Dec 93 - S1 NGH sold £86,000 Nov 98 - P1 LOT sold £66,000 Oct 96 - J1 MMY sold £35,000 Nov 91 - AKB 44R (AKBAR) - FAB 16N (FABIEN) - CHR 155P (CHRIS SP) - CLA 770N (CLAPTON) - DAV 15W - (DAVIS W) have also been sold...

These numbers may only have value if they are miss-spaced or miss-represented - If you do this, the DVLA and the police may fine you £1000's and or take the number back!

What if DVLA issue numbers like;

KINGS - KINGS 1 - KINGS 2 etc... PILOT - PILOT 1 - PILOT 2 etc... JIMMY - JIMMY 1 - JIMMY 2 etc....
AKBAR - 1/2/3 - CHRIS P - 1/2/3 - FABIEN 1/2/3

Are released?

J1 MMY + K1 NGS + P1 LOT may be worth a lot less...

It is a possibility that these numbers will be released...

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 Post subject: No Chance.......
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:32 pm 
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KINGS - KINGS 1 - KINGS 2 etc... PILOT - PILOT 1 - PILOT 2 etc... JIMMY - JIMMY 1 - JIMMY 2 etc.... AKBAR - 1/2/3 - CHRIS P - 1/2/3 - FABIEN 1/2/3

They wont release these - Trust Me!


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 Post subject: Re: No Chance.......
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:45 pm 
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Alo Joe, why do you think they wont? I think its 100% then they will be real private plates.....




[quote="Joeblunt"]KINGS - KINGS 1 - KINGS 2 etc... PILOT - PILOT 1 - PILOT 2 etc... JIMMY - JIMMY 1 - JIMMY 2 etc.... AKBAR - 1/2/3 - CHRIS P - 1/2/3 - FABIEN 1/2/3

They wont release these - Trust Me![/quote]


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 Post subject: Re: No Chance.......
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Would be good if we could have a DVLA-SOM person to give us an opinion... please...





[quote="carregcouk"]Alo Joe, why do you think they wont? I think its 100% then they will be real private plates.....




[quote="Joeblunt"]KINGS - KINGS 1 - KINGS 2 etc... PILOT - PILOT 1 - PILOT 2 etc... JIMMY - JIMMY 1 - JIMMY 2 etc.... AKBAR - 1/2/3 - CHRIS P - 1/2/3 - FABIEN 1/2/3

They wont release these - Trust Me![/quote][/quote]


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 Post subject: Re: The DVLA (UK Government Department) A Law Unto Themselve
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[quote="carregcouk"]The DVLA have made millions auctioning private number plates off like;

K1 NGS sold £185,000 Dec 93 - S1 NGH sold £86,000 Nov 98 - P1 LOT sold £66,000 Oct 96 - J1 MMY sold £35,000 Nov 91 - AKB 44R (AKBAR) - FAB 16N (FABIEN) - CHR 155P (CHRIS SP) - CLA 770N (CLAPTON) - DAV 15W - (DAVIS W) have also been sold...

[b]These numbers may only have value if they are miss-spaced or miss-represented - If you do this, the DVLA and the police may fine you £1000's and or take the number back[/b][/quote]

I think the miss spacing really could be over looked if the letters and numbers are put together with "regulation" spacing! Miss spacing the letters and numbers well away from eachother shouldnt be allowed. The chopping "T's" to make them look like a "7" or flipping a 3 to look like an "E" should be cracked down on! It would make plates like K1NGS worth even more money! :lol:


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The thing is the DVLA have only ever seized one person's number plate as it was offensive so I dont really think that seizing a plate is really a question.

I mean if you pay £100,000+ for a number plate why not misrepresent it. The worst that will happen is you'll get a £50 fine. No points or anything.

E.g the person that has bought 51 NGH will represent it as 51NGH as will the person that bought P1LOT and K1NGS.

Whats £50 when you've spent loads of money on a plate. My one is misrepresented but IO have been pulled over a couple of time by the ole bill but all I get told is get the plate sorted. I dont even get a fine and even if I did I'd rather pay it that not misrepresent my plate. That is why I bought my plate from auction.


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 Post subject: Re: The DVLA (UK Government Department) A Law Unto Themselve
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[quote="Fenners"][quote="carregcouk"]The DVLA have made millions auctioning private number plates off like;

K1 NGS sold £185,000 Dec 93 - S1 NGH sold £86,000 Nov 98 - P1 LOT sold £66,000 Oct 96 - J1 MMY sold £35,000 Nov 91 - AKB 44R (AKBAR) - FAB 16N (FABIEN) - CHR 155P (CHRIS SP) - CLA 770N (CLAPTON) - DAV 15W - (DAVIS W) have also been sold...

[b]These numbers may only have value if they are miss-spaced or miss-represented - If you do this, the DVLA and the police may fine you £1000's and or take the number back[/b][/quote]

I think the miss spacing really could be over looked if the letters and numbers are put together with "regulation" spacing! Miss spacing the letters and numbers well away from eachother shouldnt be allowed. The chopping "T's" to make them look like a "7" or flipping a 3 to look like an "E" should be cracked down on! It would make plates like K1NGS worth even more money! :lol:[/quote]


Unless you own 10 OJW and someone with 100 JW doesn't pay the congestion charge, is in a hit and run or gets done for speeding.


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 Post subject: Re: The DVLA (UK Government Department) A Law Unto Themselve
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[quote="Jonathan Wheeler"][quote="Fenners"][quote="carregcouk"]The DVLA have made millions auctioning private number plates off like;

K1 NGS sold £185,000 Dec 93 - S1 NGH sold £86,000 Nov 98 - P1 LOT sold £66,000 Oct 96 - J1 MMY sold £35,000 Nov 91 - AKB 44R (AKBAR) - FAB 16N (FABIEN) - CHR 155P (CHRIS SP) - CLA 770N (CLAPTON) - DAV 15W - (DAVIS W) have also been sold...

[b]These numbers may only have value if they are miss-spaced or miss-represented - If you do this, the DVLA and the police may fine you £1000's and or take the number back[/b][/quote]

I think the miss spacing really could be over looked if the letters and numbers are put together with "regulation" spacing! Miss spacing the letters and numbers well away from eachother shouldnt be allowed. The chopping "T's" to make them look like a "7" or flipping a 3 to look like an "E" should be cracked down on! It would make plates like K1NGS worth even more money! :lol:[/quote]


Unless you own 10 OJW and someone with 100 JW doesn't pay the congestion charge, is in a hit and run or gets done for speeding.[/quote]

This is true, however the chances of the plates being on the same type/colour of car are slim (however still possible) you wuldnt get done if it wasnt you!


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 Post subject: wrong or right
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It is nice to have peace of mind and be on the right side of the law, if you are not correct it will be on you mind if a police car is behind you?

We think 100% legal is the best option but in many cases it will also be the most expensive :-Z


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 Post subject: the dvla
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the dvla should be brought to account for profiteering by gladly taking thousands and in some cases hundreds of thousands of pounds from customers because a plate could be read as an exclusive word but after having banked the cash in their bank if the purchaser spaces their newly purchased cherished plate to read the word the dvla have stung him for the dvla will sting him again with fines and it is not ethically tight and the sooner a group of top qc barristers have the balls to take on the cvla and bring the dvla to account the better and penalise them with hefty fines .. sooner rather than later..

its like buying a fine art painting at auction only to be told that if you hang it on the wall well fine you .. its as clear cut as that ..

you should be allowed to fill out a document at the police station showing the cherished plate you bought with the correct documentation showing proof of ownership and how the plate will appear on your vehicle sign and date it and keep a copy for yourself and the police keep a copy for numberplate recognition..

or the dvla sell every plate for £250.00 irrespective of what the plate says ..

if you are not allowed to make your plate appear as it was sold to you then you should not be charged extortionate money for what it would appear to say ..

they are having their cake and eating it at the expense of the customer..

and someone should sue their SPAM AWAITING DELETION for doing so..


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 Post subject: DVLA
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To some degree its the public that are to blame, they pay ridiculous sums for numbers knowing they have to break the law to display them how they want but still buy them. If everyone stopped buying them Cherished Number dealers would put pressure on the government because the Cherished Number industry would be in fear of collapsing and probably a compromise would be achieved.

How many times have you seen rubbish being sold on EBay? Same principals really, if people are daft enough to spend money on something that's not exactly how it is (i.e. DVLA's own website does say "if you are going to misrepresent your reg number we'd prefer it if you didn't buy it") then the guidelines are quite clear.

I think the trouble is not the odd millimetres in miss-spacing its all the weirdo stuff like bolts and making 4's into A's, 2's into Z's, 7's into T's etc, on top of this this people are using watermark style backgrounds, different style fonts (i.e. pencil, brush, italic, etc), their own Logos and slogans.
Many have really pushed it over the line and they seem like they are daring DVLA, Police etc to take action.

My advice is to buy a proper cherished number like BEN 584, TOM 358, 195 ABC, 1234 JB, XYF 599, etc which will be a better investment.


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 Post subject: Told you
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3ND 0F TH3 R04D? A new law personalised number plates?

Platespeak – the often bizarre pidgin of personalised number plates – is a compromise between red tape and self-expression. But a proposed law could threaten its survival, says David Wilkins

Is one of Britain's best-loved dialects heading for oblivion? This is the curious language of personalised number plates, a lingo in which "Hair do" is spelled H41 RD0 (as purchased by celebrity hairstylist Nicky Clarke) and BOT 70M is a cheeky, if not particularly sophisticated, joke.

They might may us groan, but to many, flashy plates are highly covetable – as attested by the sums paid for the most desirable registrations, and the close approximation to a common first name can easily fetch six-figures.

To prevent things getting out of hand, the UK authorities have always insisted on a few guidelines. Personalised numbers have to have to conform to the systems of prefixes and suffixes, operated since 1963, that indicate the age of the car to which they were originally attached; there are also rules on the spacing and style of characters, although these are often ignored.

But now Essex Tory MP James Duddridge wants to allow British motorists to express themselves more freely. Last week, he proposed a bill designed to loosen regulations that currently govern the format of personalised number plates, addressing their increased popularity. It used to be only a wealthy few who could customise their cars – Jimmy Tarbuck's COM 1C and Paul Daniels's MAG 1C are some of the best-known examples – but now, far more of us want to get in on the act.

The existing rules mean that the supply of the most in-demand words and phrases – in particular pre-1963 style plates which do not have an age-related component – cannot be increased in order to meet demand, meaning that prices have been on a steep upward trend for decades. Earlier this year, for example, F1 went for £440,625, putting it beyond the reach of all but lottery winners and hedge-fund managers. The result has been that those who cannot afford the best plates have been forced to use a bit of ingenuity in order to get a close approximation of the word or words they really want.

These drivers rely on "platespeak", as it is known in the business, to compose their unique signage – substituting a "5" for an "S", for example, an "A" for a "4", and so on.

Duddridge objects to this. He wants to know why one of his constituents, wanting to advertise their home town on a number plate, should have to resort to an awkward piece of platespeak such as S44 FND (SARFEND) rather than simply being allowed to buy a plate that reads SOUTHEND. Under his scheme, he would be able to buy JAMES, rather than having to settle for J4 MES, or apply for a new plate, JPD, instead of having to bid for the prohibitively expensive pre-1963 JPD1.

If Duddridge gets his way, we'd miss out on deciphering platespeak. But another concern with his plan is that it might undermine the prices of existing plates and the trade in them; could the value of J4 MES really be left unaffected by the release of the previously unavailable JAMES?

Number plate dealers think that this might be less of an issue than it at first appears – there are after all, hundreds of potential buyers for the word James and, in any case, under the Duddridge proposals, the DVLA would continue to control the release of plates in order to support values. Cadger thinks that objections to the proposals are less likely to come from the trade than, for example, the police, whose work might be made more difficult if there were large numbers of cars bearing similar numbers on the roads.

Among European nations, Britain is unique in its obsession with personalised number plates; in Germany, if you buy a Mercedes, the dealer may discreetly exercise a bit of influence with the local registration office in order to secure you a plate incorporating your initials, but that's about it.

For the Continentals, number plates are all about location, location, location; in France, for example, a "75" suffix instantly associates a car with Paris, while in Germany, "M" shows that a German car is registered in Munich. In 1994, Italy dropped regional identifiers but, after protests, these had to be reintroduced in modified form in 1999.

In Britain, by contrast, it is quite difficult to link a car or its driver to a location via the number plate – except, of course, if like James Duddridge, it comes from E55 EXX, in which case the platespeak is likely to give the game away.

Habla platespeak?

A bumper guide to alphabet and spelling

0 = O

1= I

12 = R

13 = B

2 = Z

3 = E

4 = A

5 = S

6 = G

7 = T or Y

8 = B

Enabling the following plates:

13 OND = BOND

DAM 14N = DAMIAN

JUL 13T = JULIET

MEG 4N = MEGAN

S4 MMY = SAMMY

B12 UCE = BRUCE

SAV 46E = "Savage" – owned by Kevin Savage of record label Savage Trax

F1 NED – "Fined" – owned by the proprietor of parkingappeals .co.uk, a site that campaigns against the incorrect issue of parking fines

MAG 1C – "Magic" – owned by magician Paul Daniels

D1 DDY – "Diddy" – owned by DJ Diddy David Hamilton


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